Hacker Summer Camp is this week! I look forward to seeing friends and making new ones. This year is a lot slower and more relaxed for me. My only commitments so far are recording a podcast episode during Black Hat and leading an offensive security panel in the Adversary Village at DEF CON. The panel takes place at 10:00 AM PDT in the Adversary Village.
My employer, Suzu Labs, is sponsoring the IoT Village and hosting an automatic litter box hacking challenge. Stop by and see us in the IoT Village.
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I will also have some coins to give away during Black Hat and DEF CON. If you want one, just ask, and I will give you one while supplies last.
Season 4 Episode 029: Casey Smith (SubTee): Living Off the Land, Deception Tech, and the Evolution of Offensive Security
Living Off the Land, Deception Technology, and the Future of Defense with Casey Smith
One of the things I enjoy most about hosting The Phillip Wylie Show is the opportunity to sit down with people whose work has had a lasting impact on the cybersecurity community. This week's guest is one of those people.
I recently spoke with Casey Smith (SubTee), a well-known offensive security researcher whose work on Living Off the Land Binaries (LOLBins) has influenced both red and blue teams around the world.
Our conversation covers much more than offensive security techniques. Casey shares his career journey from systems administration to becoming one of the industry's most respected researchers, discusses how curiosity and hands-on experimentation shaped his career, and explains why strong networking and operating system fundamentals still matter today.
We also dive into one of the topics Casey is most passionate about today: deception technology.
Rather than relying solely on prevention, Casey explains how deception can help organizations detect attackers earlier, slow them down, and provide defenders with valuable insight into malicious activity. As AI-powered attacks continue to evolve, deception is becoming an increasingly important layer of modern security strategies.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How Casey got started in cybersecurity
The story behind his groundbreaking LOLBins research
Why application whitelisting changed offensive security
The importance of networking fundamentals for security professionals
Favorite security tools including Burp Suite, WireGuard, Tailscale, and ngrok
Why deception technology deserves more attention
How Casey is mentoring the next generation of cybersecurity professionals
His perspective on AI and the future of offensive security
Whether you're a penetration tester, defender, security leader, or someone looking to grow your cybersecurity career, this episode is packed with practical insights and fascinating stories from one of the industry's most innovative researchers.
🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube.
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I hope to see you at summer camp!
Cheers!
Phillip Wylie
